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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Jun 24, 2010 4:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: what's your take on FURTHUR?

ive seen them a couple times so far, and will be seeing them again next week, and im sure it will be fun as it was the previous two times, but i still have not been able to get thru but a song or two without skipping to the next song when listening to copies of any of the shows!! are the really any good or is it ive been starving all these years without shows??? i think it maybe nothing more than nostalgia at this point???!!! so what do you all have to say about this band???

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Jun 24, 2010 7:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what's your take on FURTHUR?

I like them, I think they're an extremely strong concert band. I feel the same way about listening to their shows though - even the one I went to I can't get through more than a few songs. They're a little "too clean" for my taste, as weird as that sounds, and a lot of their jamming doesn't sound very risky, which is a major reason why I am drawn to the dead's music, that sense of tension - the "will they pull it off?" factor.

The Furthur concert I went to was a real hoot, though; they are all excellent musicians playing incredible songs, and they definitely have a lot of chemistry with each other. It didn't change my life or anything (despite my impressionable age) but it certainly exceeded my expectations. A lot of great stuff was coming off the stage, just not with the same feeling of discovery that goes with the best of what the Grateful Dead had to offer.

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Jun 24, 2010 10:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what's your take on FURTHUR?

When I go to these kinds of shows these days, it's more for the atmosphere and the friends. The music, invariably, is somewhat disappointing, it just doesn't have that old "WOW" factor for me.

I am going to Red Rocks in September, mainly because, well, it is after all Red Rocks, and it's going to be a big reunion with a group of about 15 friends from college, some of whom I haven't seen in over 25 years.

I'm definitely gonna be at the Saturday show, but I'm not sure if I'll go to either of the other two. With my son and wife it'll cost over $200 a day with tix, refreshments, etc and I'm not sure I want to spend that much money. I'll probably spend Sunday in Boulder, visiting my son who's going to school there and seeing some other old friends that live there.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 24, 2010 10:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what's your take on FURTHUR?

Going this weekend with my Coney Island girl .
I have mixed feelings about going . Why when prior to '95 I went to see JGB or BW ( solo , w/RW ) it was music that inspired me , moved me as a GD show ; and now , from ' 99 on I mostly hope the music will not be cringe inducing . The exception being Ratdog on 9 - 9- 95 ( living in Dover N.H. @ the time > UNH ) for obvious reasons . BTW is that show posted anywhere ?
My Coney Island girl is already a few feet off the ground , singing away while making her hula hoops to sell this weekend . Ready to twirl .
rob turned me on to 4 - 17 - 99 , and from the 1st DS > My Fav Things is The best post - '95 ( post - '90 ? ) GD related music I've heard .
So it's my 16th wed. anniversary , no kids , NYC , summer weather , and with my girl . It would take a train to cry to turn the mood sour . But I have no expectations . I agree w/ MC re > risk taking / discovery . I think one thing that drove Lesh nuts was Garcia not rehearsing or sounding ' tight ' enough . They do both now . Maybe that's why .

edit - The Ratdog show was 8 - 9 - 95 @ the Hampton Casino , not 9 - 9 - 95

This post was modified by micah6vs8 on 2010-06-24 17:07:42

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Jun 24, 2010 10:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what's your take on FURTHUR?

Here it is for your listening pleasure:

http://www.archive.org/details/rd1995-08-09.dsbd.flaschner.flac16

Me and my girl will be heading up to Coney Island for the shows tomorrow morning, but staying near Jones Beach during the daytime.

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Poster: BobsShortShorts Date: Jun 24, 2010 4:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what's your take on FURTHUR?

It is what it is and I enjoy new versions of old favs....

I have been a BIG RatDog fan for their sound on "our" songs and this is just another take.

This stuff satisfies me and sounds fresher than the ABB take on their old songs......

Its all good as long as they don`t cover any Miley songs....

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jun 24, 2010 9:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what's your take on FURTHUR?

After the 2009 Greensboro Dead show , I promised myself I would not see any more GD "reunion" bands. So, I have not seen Furthur. I have streamed several of their shows at LMA, and I may end up eating my "no more shows" statement. If the planets aligned just right, and the ticket price was less than 2009 Dead I would go to see Furthur. From what I've heard here, they are better than 2009 Dead, but don;t quite live up to 2002 The Other Ones.

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Jun 24, 2010 10:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what's your take on FURTHUR?

Furthur has added another guitarist/singer, Jeff Pehrson of The Fall Risk for the upcoming tour.

2 shows of his band are here on the archive:

http://www.archive.org/details/TheFallRisk2009-12-05.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/TFR2010-04-28.flac16

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Jun 24, 2010 11:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what's your take on FURTHUR?

Seen them in February and had a great time. I would have to say that the music was not as inspiring as when I saw The Dead at Rothbury 2009 but that may have been a factor of setlist and venue. Outdoor in the woods vs. basketball arena.

Dire Wolf and Brown Eyed Women were the most ridiculous audience sing along up there with the Sabbath Bloody Sabbath with Black Sabbath at Ozzfest 10 years ago. But honestly, can't complain about a New Speedway > King Solomon's Marbles > Caution > Dark Star > The Other One > Let It Grow > NFA to end the show.

Maybe it was me, but there were moments when the music sounded hollow and soulless without Garcia on stage but then JK would dig in harder and everything would be alright. Still, there was an inconsistency to the performance to the point of fragility on some songs. But when they were all focused, the music was incredible. I was totally slack jawed for most of Dark Star :)

The vibe of the crowd is incredible - these songs bring out a good group of attentive, encouraging listeners.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 24, 2010 12:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what's your take on FURTHUR?

That would be a perfect set list . I wish they would play more straight ahead jazz , like Milestones or blues or other sources of Americana or further afar . It's the JG songs that make me cringe . Please no Terrapin , Eyes , S/F , WR , SB , I'll stop . How about Ollin Arageed ( Hamza RIP ) , or making WBOTB what it truly needs to be , scare the animals , dissonant nastiness . How about opening with that ? Milestones > Ollin A > WBOTB ? My ears would be in the fully upright position

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Jun 24, 2010 12:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what's your take on FURTHUR?

I kinda agree with you on the JG songs. There is an interesting vibe when his songs were played. I'm not sure if this translates to the room and performers but there is a sensation of paying humble and bittersweet homage to the Fat Man. There is a mixture of melancholy, celebration, yearning, the band striving for the sound. Even though its been almost 15 years, the line "and the old man's getting on" during BEW was very evocative. Althea also did the same - reminiscing a reminiscence. Dream within a dream. It's a good feeling but the music feels better when they are doing their own songs. Friend of the Devil always brings tears to my eyes anytime I hear it live.

The setlist was incredible but I could have really gone for a ballad somewhere in the middle of the hour of spacey jams. I enjoy the Ballad > Rocker sequence at the end of shows... gives the experience more emotional range.

I started out writing about how I agree with you on the JG songs but I can see why they need to be played - they invoke the spirit. Still, I agree that they should add new instrumentals and jams. This band has great chemistry and their Deadesque explorations are sweet so it would be nice to hear them to stretch out other songs. MMM just imagine a nice So What? Did you hear the full 24 minute Terrapin from Furthurfest? Good stuff.

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Poster: JerseyMark Date: Jun 24, 2010 12:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what's your take on FURTHUR?

Sunday Coney Island tix are going for $16.00 or less. If it stinks, no big loss. My feeling is, the shows will be fun. And with Nathans and the cyclone next door, you cant go wrong.

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